Hypocrisy

[o.g. scatterpaws]

Funny how the the developers are so pissy about peeps pirating their app when it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games. Like anyone here's dumb enough to believe that people who use this app arent pirating. What makes you think that you have the right to make money off of piracy? Just cause its legal doesn't mean it's right. Buy a DS. Quit pirating and making money off of piracy. If you need Drastic to work, just use Lucky Patcher. Or a cracked version. Eye for an eye.

By the way, I think Exophase and Jay Haru are actually the same person, he just uses Haru's profile to act like a 1st class dick. Either way, Haru needs to go outside and get laid (or just a hug from his mom/dad or something....) before spewing venom at users who have legit questions. I saw a post he fired at a fucking kid a while back, you need help dude.

[Exophase]

We're not pissy. Do what you want. But of course we're not going to help you with problems you have with cracking our app and if it's broken that's your problem.

If people pirate ROMs that's their problem and I really can't stop them. There are actually people who only play ROMs of games they've purchased. If you think they're lying then I'm sure there's nothing I can say to you to change your mind. I feel like Lordus and I have the right to make money off of the years of work that went behind the emulator.

But I don't really see the consistency in your logic. I mean you say everyone who uses DraStic is a pirate then tell people to "buy a DS" and quit pirating, but then encourage people to use the emulator anyway so long as they don't pay for it. So which is it exactly?

And no, I'm not Jay Haru. I mean, really? He can be on the abrasive side and I've asked him to tone it down before, but if you have specific issues with something he's done it'd probably be more helpful to bring them up than throw insults at him.

[ericbazinga]

Funny how the the developers are so pissy about peeps pirating their app when it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games. Like anyone here's dumb enough to believe that people who use this app arent pirating. What makes you think that you have the right to make money off of piracy? Just cause its legal doesn't mean it's right. Buy a DS. Quit pirating and making money off of piracy. If you need Drastic to work, just use Lucky Patcher. Or a cracked version. Eye for an eye.

By the way, I think Exophase and Jay Haru are actually the same person, he just uses Haru's profile to act like a 1st class dick. Either way, Haru needs to go outside and get laid (or just a hug from his mom/dad or something....) before spewing venom at users who have legit questions. I saw a post he fired at a fucking kid a while back, you need help dude.

Wow okay... feeling better now that you've let off that steam at a completely random time that caught everyone off guard? It is Christmas Eve, you know.
Exophase discourages piracy because he loses money every time that happens. And then you go out and say to just go ahead and pirate it? If you made an app that costs money, and then someone pirated it, would you be okay with that? Also, emulators themselves aren't illegal, it really comes down to whether or not you dumped the ROMs you're using yourself.
As for Jay Haru, he can be a jerk at times, but it's usually to people who pirated the app. We don't usually say anything about it, because no-one wants to piss off the guy with the Ban Hammer. You're lucky he didn't ban you for calling him a "1st class dick".

[Jay Haru]

Funny how the the developers are so pissy about peeps pirating their app when it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games. Like anyone here's dumb enough to believe that people who use this app arent pirating. What makes you think that you have the right to make money off of piracy? Just cause its legal doesn't mean it's right. Buy a DS. Quit pirating and making money off of piracy. If you need Drastic to work, just use Lucky Patcher. Or a cracked version. Eye for an eye.

By the way, I think Exophase and Jay Haru are actually the same person, he just uses Haru's profile to act like a 1st class dick. Either way, Haru needs to go outside and get laid (or just a hug from his mom/dad or something....) before spewing venom at users who have legit questions. I saw a post he fired at a fucking kid a while back, you need help dude.

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!

I would really like to claim that I am exo but unfortunately, it aint so. if i was i would've had been swimming in all those moolah and i wont be stuck doing customer service rep. I am also not smart enuf to work on drastic so, whatever, trollfail.

Also, no sorry, i act this way to support the developers. remember that the goal of the app is basically to play their ROMs (legally obtained) on another medium. I believe the devs know that one way or another, those who purchase it will use it for unintended means (game piracy as you 'eloquently' said). Also, emulators are legal unless you had been in a room enjoying the neglect of your parents coz you are too dumb to think. at. all. (case in point, bleem! vs. sony)

I do not really care if they pirate the roms or the app but i do care if some halfwit like you... wait, sorry, i am insulting them by comparing halfwits to you. you're definitely worse!, comes here and asks for support on an illegally obtained copy of drastic. Whether its a legit question or not is irrelevant. I'd like for you to try and ask a legitimate question on any boards and then say you pirated their app and if you got official support, come back. If you cannot differentiate that then its your problem not mine.

If i had answered your non-questions then, I am off to my little space in this earth~

My apologies to Exophase as clearly I am somewhat to blame for this post and if again, i had to break the no potty mouth rule.

[huckleberrypie]

Jay's been like that at times, trust me. But I can get along with him more or less as I basically have no beef with him anyhow.

It isn't hypocrisy when Exo made it clear that he will not offer support for pirated ROMs, only self-dumped copies of games to which anyone with a DS and some tools can do. If you're only here to incite drama, there's always the log out button and a place for you to vent whatever logical fallacies you are churning out at us. I may complain at Exo tbh, but not in a rather snarky and patronizing way.

[JeaneMaggie]

Funny how the the developers are so pissy about peeps pirating their app when it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games. Like anyone here's dumb enough to believe that people who use this app arent pirating. What makes you think that you have the right to make money off of piracy? Just cause its legal doesn't mean it's right. Buy a DS. Quit pirating and making money off of piracy. If you need Drastic to work, just use Lucky Patcher. Or a cracked version. Eye for an eye.

By the way, I think Exophase and Jay Haru are actually the same person, he just uses Haru's profile to act like a 1st class dick. Either way, Haru needs to go outside and get laid (or just a hug from his mom/dad or something....) before spewing venom at users who have legit questions. I saw a post he fired at a fucking kid a while back, you need help dude.

I found this after eating Christmas brunch... And I ate a lot of gross stuff. After reading this, I felt like I was going to puke. I have a dislike of piracy, but is going to happen anyway. Quit complaining about something that cannot be helped! Try to ignore it. Wait, why am I helping someone like you? You don't deserve my advice.

I think you should realise that 90% of Drastic DS's userbase including many on this forum use Pirated ROMs in fact this is the case for many emulators especially on Android.

This is why I ingore it. It cannot be helped.

Exo, and other developers worked hard to make this emulator for our convenience. Then you bash on them and call Haru a dick. FOR SHAME.

You said, "it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games," which it not in anyone's control except the person who is pirating the game. Didn't Exo & co. say they aren't responsible for these kinds of actions? Wait isn't that the policy that applies to every product?! Didn't you KNOW?!?! I guess if you buy a sharp knife then cut yourself, is it the company who distributed it is responsible for your cut. That's what you just said with DraStic in place of the knife and pirated games in place of the cut.

Legit questions? By legit questions do you mean answering something that was already in the faq? Or maybe something about inputting a cheat? Was the kid Haru bashed on you? Do you want revenge or something?

Some people actually have the ds and dump their bios & roms. How dare you accuse people who legally obtain everything pirates. How dare you insult me because of you're anger spree. It looks like you're on an anger spree.

If exo was making actual ds copies and not an emulator, that would be pirating. Nintendo dislikes emulators, but there is nothing they can do about it. Despite all they say is true, the issue is to big and emulation is legal so long as those who posses the emulator posses the actual handheld or console.

There is no wonder why you called this subforum hypocrisy. You're telling people to pirate after acusing some of piracy. More piracy won't fix the piracy issue, it will only make it worse.

DraStic costs money for the same reason why food is sold in a store. To get by or get extra cash. Let's not forget that some of the cash earned used to cover for expenses and not all for profit. Just because a mess load of apps are free doesn't mean what I just said doesn't apply.

Anyone with a brain would know the guy who posted this is a wackjob.

Who's with me? (Oh gosh. That last line was so corny...)

[kaikun97]

Funny how the the developers are so pissy about peeps pirating their app when it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games. Like anyone here's dumb enough to believe that people who use this app arent pirating. What makes you think that you have the right to make money off of piracy? Just cause its legal doesn't mean it's right. Buy a DS. Quit pirating and making money off of piracy. If you need Drastic to work, just use Lucky Patcher. Or a cracked version. Eye for an eye.

By the way, I think Exophase and Jay Haru are actually the same person, he just uses Haru's profile to act like a 1st class dick. Either way, Haru needs to go outside and get laid (or just a hug from his mom/dad or something....) before spewing venom at users who have legit questions. I saw a post he fired at a fucking kid a while back, you need help dude.

I found this after eating Christmas brunch... And I ate a lot of gross stuff. After reading this, I felt like I was going to puke. I have a dislike of piracy, but is going to happen anyway. Quit complaining about something that cannot be helped! Try to ignore it. Wait, why am I helping someone like you? You don't deserve my advice.

I think you should realise that 90% of Drastic DS's userbase including many on this forum use Pirated ROMs in fact this is the case for many emulators especially on Android.

This is why I ingore it. It cannot be helped.

Exo, and other developers worked hard to make this emulator for our convenience. Then you bash on them and call Haru a dick. FOR SHAME.

You said, "it clearly allows others to play pirated Nintendo games," which it not in anyone's control except the person who is pirating the game. Didn't Exo & co. say they aren't responsible for these kinds of actions? Wait isn't that the policy that applies to every product?! Didn't you KNOW?!?! I guess if you buy a sharp knife then cut yourself, is it the company who distributed it is responsible for your cut. That's what you just said with DraStic in place of the knife and pirated games in place of the cut.

Legit questions? By legit questions do you mean answering something that was already in the faq? Or maybe something about inputting a cheat? Was the kid Haru bashed on you? Do you want revenge or something?

Some people actually have the ds and dump their bios & roms. How dare you accuse people who legally obtain everything pirates. How dare you insult me because of you're anger spree. It looks like you're on an anger spree.

If exo was making actual ds copies and not an emulator, that would be pirating. Nintendo dislikes emulators, but there is nothing they can do about it. Despite all they say is true, the issue is to big and emulation is legal so long as those who posses the emulator posses the actual handheld or console.

There is no wonder why you called this subforum hypocrisy. You're telling people to pirate after acusing some of piracy. More piracy won't fix the piracy issue, it will only make it worse.

DraStic costs money for the same reason why food is sold in a store. To get by or get extra cash. Let's not forget that some of the cash earned used to cover for expenses and not all for profit. Just because a mess load of apps are free doesn't mean what I just said doesn't apply.

Anyone with a brain would know the guy who posted this is a wackjob.

Who's with me? (Oh gosh. That last line was so corny...)

The guy who made this thread is your typical immature forum troll (and possibly quite young seeing their attitude) who is clearly butthurt because they dont want to buy the app. Buying the app supports Exophase and means better updates

How dare you accuse people who legally obtain everything pirates.

not sure if replying to me or the thread author but I said most people and if you only play your legally dumped games, I was not including you in that statement

Sometimes however it is the only viable route when wanting to emulate a rare DS game because they are either not in production anymore or Retailers do not buy Nintendo DS games from Game developers anymore (meaning they dont lose money anyway).

I still support game devs, I purchase all my 3DS games online Just got SMT Devil Survivor 2 Record breaker and Xenoblade Chronicles 3D to add to my 3DS game collection

[o.g. scatterpaws]

Sorry about for such a late reply but I kinda forgot about this...

Anyway I didn't even realize my post really was on Christmas Eve! I don't celebrate the holiday and I spend all my time working (and "trolling", appartenly :/) so I didn't realize, sorry for spoiling the holiday cheer! ^_^ Your responses were very entertaining (I especially enjoyed Jay's).

Anyway, yes I support pirating off of people who profit from piracy. And I am a freelance artist hoping to publish graphic novels so I fully expect to suffer from piracy and it will suck. But I don't trace/plagarise my art which is the equivilant (misspelled) of selling an emulator. I have bought Drastic and it's awesome and if it wasn't profiting from piracy the devs it would definately deserve to make shittons of cash, but it does. Of course, I still use it and even though I don't download roms i'm still part of the problem, I suppose. But I won't be too upset if people pirate my future (hopefully) books cause at least people will be willing to risk a slight chance to go to prison just to read my stuff and getting to share my stories with readers is more important than money (but just barely).

Jeane - I cannot ignore piracy because I may someday, as an artist, be a victim of it. I know that you would have no way of knowing that before, but FYI. I know that complaing about it won't fix anything but I still wanna do it, sorry. No, the kid wasn't me I just feel like sticking up for him/her and maybe I could do something small to try to help. I never accused peeps who legally dump roms of piracy, I dont know where you got that from... And yes I am a whackjob, it's just too much fun to stop. It could be worse, right?

I still believe Jay is Exophase, its too easy to create multiple profiles and Jay's weird worship of Exophase sounds kinda strange. Jay wants to devote so much time just cause he loves the emulator? Doesn't add up to much. I mean, I love the emulator too, but I just wouldn't have the free time/patience to devote to a stranger. But just enough to write long-winded posts on a forum, of course ^_^. Oh yeah, and Jay punctuation is your friend, use it. And your language is fine towards people who deserve it, like myself, but you seem to snap at anyone who asks a question that you feel is dumb or was answered somewhere else, not everyone has the time to search so many pages of forum topics.

Kaikun - I am immature, and I plan to be for a long time. But i'm not as young as you may believe me to be, which is why I know that life as an adult is demanding and which is also the reason why I still enjoy playing DS games so much. Which is also the reason why I still hold on so hard to the crazy dreams i've had since I really was young.

In the end, im glad that emulators like Drastic exist, i'm not saying that they shouldn't at all. I'm saying that making money off of something that so easily allows piracy is wrong, but that's just my opinion. I know that there is no controlling how it's used (after all, I can't go suing every PDF reader that displays pirated copies of my books) and all but that doesn't change the hypocrisy.

Well, i've mercifully ran out of things to say ^_^.

[Jay Haru]

Sorry about for such a late reply but I kinda forgot about this...

Anyway I didn't even realize my post really was on Christmas Eve! I don't celebrate the holiday and I spend all my time working (and "trolling", appartenly :/) so I didn't realize, sorry for spoiling the holiday cheer! ^_^ Your responses were very entertaining (I especially enjoyed Jay's).

Anyway, yes I support pirating off of people who profit from piracy. And I am a freelance artist hoping to publish graphic novels so I fully expect to suffer from piracy and it will suck. But I don't trace/plagarise my art which is the equivilant (misspelled) of selling an emulator. I have bought Drastic and it's awesome and if it wasn't profiting from piracy the devs it would definately deserve to make shittons of cash, but it does. Of course, I still use it and even though I don't download roms i'm still part of the problem, I suppose. But I won't be too upset if people pirate my future (hopefully) books cause at least people will be willing to risk a slight chance to go to prison just to read my stuff and getting to share my stories with readers is more important than money (but just barely).

Jeane - I cannot ignore piracy because I may someday, as an artist, be a victim of it. I know that you would have no way of knowing that before, but FYI. I know that complaing about it won't fix anything but I still wanna do it, sorry. No, the kid wasn't me I just feel like sticking up for him/her and maybe I could do something small to try to help. I never accused peeps who legally dump roms of piracy, I dont know where you got that from... And yes I am a whackjob, it's just too much fun to stop. It could be worse, right?

I still believe Jay is Exophase, its too easy to create multiple profiles and Jay's weird worship of Exophase sounds kinda strange. Jay wants to devote so much time just cause he loves the emulator? Doesn't add up to much. I mean, I love the emulator too, but I just wouldn't have the free time/patience to devote to a stranger. But just enough to write long-winded posts on a forum, of course ^_^. Oh yeah, and Jay punctuation is your friend, use it. And your language is fine towards people who deserve it, like myself, but you seem to snap at anyone who asks a question that you feel is dumb or was answered somewhere else, not everyone has the time to search so many pages of forum topics.

Kaikun - I am immature, and I plan to be for a long time. But i'm not as young as you may believe me to be, which is why I know that life as an adult is demanding and which is also the reason why I still enjoy playing DS games so much. Which is also the reason why I still hold on so hard to the crazy dreams i've had since I really was young.

In the end, im glad that emulators like Drastic exist, i'm not saying that they shouldn't at all. I'm saying that making money off of something that so easily allows piracy is wrong, but that's just my opinion. I know that there is no controlling how it's used (after all, I can't go suing every PDF reader that displays pirated copies of my books) and all but that doesn't change the hypocrisy.

Well, i've mercifully ran out of things to say ^_^.

sooo... by logic you are basically saying we should remain cavepeople. coz by your definition piracy is basically stealing something that is not yours using any medium its not supposedly for.

going by what you forwarded you should also complain to pc manufacturers, cd/dvd/bd makers, companies like sandisk, all phone manufacturers, media manufacturers (tv, cd players etc.) coz like the app, they are hypocrites that their technology can be used for piracy and they profit from it either directly or indirectly. the app is just that, an app. the primary purpose of the app like any other emulator is to basically let you play ds games to another device. now how you use the app is up to the buyer. if someone who obtains the app illegally comes here for help its my job to remind them we cant. you might have never noticed bot we try to make sure peepz dont post links to rom sites. thats coz we keep the intended purpose of the app as legal as possible. my ways can be rough but meh, they deserve it.

also, you're one to complain if you admit you also use the app. if you do then you know the implications of having it. I will not ask if you obtain it legally or not but a hypocrite accusing another being as one is basically retarded.

as for my devotion to exo (i actually think im more a lordus fan), lets just say the devs did me a favor no stranger will ever do for something i've done trivially for them. i have been in the console/handheld emulation scene for a very long time and i have never met anyone quite like them so the least i can do is stick around doing this as long as i can and as long as they allow me.

as for the way i post, meh, cant be bothered. if you can get the gist of what i rant then thats good but if not...

[o.g. scatterpaws]

Yeah, you pretty much repeated a lot of what i've already said. Except you are taking my point way futher that I ever did just because you're so desperate to somehow explain away your hypocricy. DVD players and mobile phones don't use copyrighted software to make money. Disney and Paramount aren't suing Sony and Apple. Emulators are ethical only if they are offered free of charge, like many of them are. And all of my points still remain valid. I am still open to anyone or anything able to prove me wrong, but pickings seem to be slim here (though there is a healthy supply of snark and tortured logic). Again, let me be clear, nobody has said anything of substance to disprove anything that I have stated here. And Haru you really do need to practice more intellegent typing and grammar becasue much of what you post is indeed difficult to read, it may not impossible, but why be so lazy? It isn't that difficult.

Anyway, I grow weary of my repeated attempts to break through this proverbial wall. I knew I wasn't going to change anything or anyone, people who don't want to learn simply aren't going to and it is frankly not worth my time anymore. I made a good effort of it and i've said what I intented to here. Think on this situation with an open mind once your emotions subside. Sorry I had to hold up a mirror to your ugliness but you'll grow into a better person if you act upon this criticism in a humble and intellegent way.

You're welcome and have a wonderful day ^_^.