Windows 10 UNIVERSAL
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If you copy someone's forum post you should include a link to the original. That would be here: http://www.emutalk.net/threads/55275-Th ... post454316
I've seen this post before and I never got around to replying to it, but simply put I think it makes some questionable claims. Most traditional interpreters that are at all efficient have a single switch dispatch and therefore it amounts to the same single indirect branch per instruction that this scheme would be. Just instead of computing that function pointer from instruction bits and a fixed table you'd be loading it from a dynamic array. It saves on work decoding at the expense of doubling the memory footprint for instructions. In theory the real wins in threaded interpreters come from doing optimizations on the code to remove redundant computations and combine operations into super-operations. This might work well on Forth interpreters but for ARM it'd be a different story.
So I'm skeptical that the performance would end up good enough but I'm not going to be trying it either way.
It's moot anyway if it's not needed on Windows 10 Mobile/Universal/whatever.
I've seen this post before and I never got around to replying to it, but simply put I think it makes some questionable claims. Most traditional interpreters that are at all efficient have a single switch dispatch and therefore it amounts to the same single indirect branch per instruction that this scheme would be. Just instead of computing that function pointer from instruction bits and a fixed table you'd be loading it from a dynamic array. It saves on work decoding at the expense of doubling the memory footprint for instructions. In theory the real wins in threaded interpreters come from doing optimizations on the code to remove redundant computations and combine operations into super-operations. This might work well on Forth interpreters but for ARM it'd be a different story.
So I'm skeptical that the performance would end up good enough but I'm not going to be trying it either way.
It's moot anyway if it's not needed on Windows 10 Mobile/Universal/whatever.
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Chances are infimas even with this method then?
And I'm sorry for breaking the rule
And I'm sorry for breaking the rule
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Yeah, we talked about this earlier. This shouldn't be a problem for Windows 10 Mobile.Ezequiel Gomes wrote:The JiT is come Back to Windows 10 Mobile
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2015/C9-04
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Man, Windows Mobile OS 10 has 33% of Windows Phone due to non-official launch, the number had increased, in addition to the Releases of other smartphones (like Jade Cousin), W10 is very promising for developing
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Ezequiel Gomes wrote:The JiT is come Back to Windows 10 Mobile
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2015/C9-04

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I don't want to be arrogant or rude, but the question was direct to the Devs, if you others are annoyed I beg you to leave since it became long
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Considering that you are basically begging Exo to make a Windows port when he's flat-out said no multiple times, the meme was well-deserved. (Also, I just couldn't resist posting the photo. Sorry.)Ezequiel Gomes wrote:I don't want to be arrogant or rude, but the question was direct to the Devs, if you others are annoyed I beg you to leave since it became long
JIT or not, you still have to consider the hardware you're developing for when making a piece of software, and I doubt Windows phones were designed with gaming in mind.
As for leaving this thread, I will. I will admit I used to have these crazy ideas like yours, but it doesn't help when you're basically trying to get someone to do all the work for you.

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Where was there a question...?
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its the one he keeps on asking you.Exophase wrote:Where was there a question...?
basically its "I represent a tiny nation called MS mobile and I demand indirectly by asking nicely for the devs to not say no to my demands by bombarding them with what they already know and annoying them until they get tired an relent."
I kept my distance due to some 'forumers' thinking I am the reincarnation of Stalin but man this guy is persistent and annoying (not to mention acting like a **** to a senior member).
to Gomez, if the devs think its viable they will not need anyone to tell them. they appreciate suggestions as drastic improved due to customer involvement (I personally witnessed some good suggestions added to the app) but basically bugging them does not help your case.
Maybe someday they might consider what you are saying but right now, just take a break and have a kitkat.
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